Omnologos - Comments http://omnograms.wordpress.com Opinions & Opinioni Wed, 28 May 2008 21:37:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU en Stefano Montanari: quattrocentotrentacinque http://omnograms.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/stefano-montanari-quattrocentotrentacinque/ http://omnograms.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/stefano-montanari-quattrocentotrentacinque/#comments Wed, 28 May 2008 21:37:55 +0000 omnologos http://omnograms.wordpress.com/?p=129
9. 28-05-2008 21:32
 
Ho fatto anche io la mia ricerca su PubMed. Le mie conclusioni sono molto semplici:  
 

  • il giornalista di Repubblica ha confuso il numero di casi in una ricerca francese con il numero di articoli sull\\’argomento 
  • lo stesso giornalista ha citato PubMed a sproposito. La ricerca dell\\’Istituto di Vigilanza Sanitaria francese(InVS) e\\’ stata pubblicata sul loro sito, e non e\\’ visibile al momento su PubMed 
  • Lo studio dell\\’InVS dice esplicitamente che i risultati NON PERMETTONO di stabilire la causalità del collegamento osservato l\\’esposizione alle emissioni di un inceneritore e l\\’incidenza di tumori; e che \\”e\\’ importante sottolineare che visto che lo studio riguarda una situazione passata, i suoi risultati NON POSSONO essere applicati al contesto attuale\\” 
  • In ogni caso, l\\’epidemiologia dice che aumenti del 6% o anche del 20% sono troppo bassi per dimostrare alcunche\\’ 
  • Ritornando a PubMed, i lavori li\\’ presenti indicano chiaramente come sia molto aperto il dibattito intorno agli effetti degli inceneritori su tumori, malattie, mortalita’ 
  • E\\’ provato che l\\’esposizione alle diossine causi problemi, per esempio un deciso aumento dei casi di sarcoma 
  • Uno studio francese di cinque anni fa riporta un deciso aumento anche dei casi di Linfoma non-Hodgkin, ma solo nella zona piu\\’ vicina a un inceneritore. 
  • Una quantita\\’ di studi effettuati in varie parti del mondo, Italia, nel Regno Unito, a Taiwan, in Portogallo, in Spagna, in Slovacchia, negli Stati Uniti, riportano invece trascurabili o comunque poco chiari effetti sulla salute da parte degli inceneritori, specie quelli piu\\’ moderni 

 
 
Per quanto mi riguarda, la polemica sugli inceneritori, dal punto di vista scientifico, dovrebbe chiudersi oggi stesso. Chi non mi crede, si rilegga lo studio InVS. 
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Maurizio Morabito Says:
1 May 2008 at 7:11 PM

There is a simple way to settle the falsifiability issue. Could anybody at RC please post a blog clearly stating what would falsify the climate models? Say (just as a way of example) “if temperatures will be cooler than today’s in 2020″ or “if there is a sustained negative trend over the course of 25 years”. Those statements are simplistic: I am sure you can come up with something more sophisticated.

Alternatively, if such a clear-cut answer has already been the topic of one of your blogs, could you please provide the link. thanks in advance.

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7 May 2008 at 7:03 PM

Re #107

I am preparing a relatively long commentary on what I am learning from this blog and its comments. For now let me clarify that I do not think that current climate models are based on incorrect physics.

The black-body radiation equivalence still holds though, as what looked like a relatively minor nuisance (”noise”?) to your average XIX century physicist, was the basis for a whole new understanding of the whole science of physics.

Think of genetics: yesterday’s “junk DNA” is (in part) today’s “gene switches”. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.

As for the comments policy, in the past I have seen some thoughts of mine not published, for whatever reason. I am pleasantly surprised that nothing of the sort is happening this time around, and hopefully the situation won’t change.

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(commento a “Ci Risiamo Con il Global Warming“): E adesso che anche Nature pone l’interruzione del riscaldamento come possibilita’ realistica, a chi chiederai di zittire chi non la pensa come te?

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Posted by: Maurizio Morabito | April 25, 2008 at 11:05 PM

It would be interesting if “Scientist” would come up with ways to falsify the climate models, since as we know the people at RealClimate won’t. The “weather vs. climate” picture confirms my point: as long as there is _any amount_ of “warming”, the climate models will be considered _right_ (in the sense of “not false”).

One can imagine a period of 20 years of cooling dismissed out of hand as “aerosols” or “soot” or whatever else: with the climate models still “right”, no matter what.

On the other hand when, say, James Hansen talks about “tipping points” he is not referring to changes that will be visible only after 10 or more years of statistics: rather, to spectacular modifications of the world as we experience it. Am I mistaken on this point?

So please, if you can, try to be explicit about what observations would make you change your mind.

As I mention in my Moon Hoax blog, the difference between a dogmatic and a honest debater is that the former invariably never ever reveals what evidence would convince them to change their mind.

http://omnologos.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/phil-plaits-moon-hoax-london-speech-report/

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omnologos Says:
22 April, 2008 at 10:39 pm

At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter any longer. The pictures are out there. There are two assaults, not just one. Ms. Jin’s facial expression is that of a person in distress, or an unexpectedly great actress.

So obscure photographic analysis and talks about the behaviour of foreigners marching towards a demo in Paris, won’t do the trick. You may as well try to stop a tsunami with a teaspoon.

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The Economist has devoted so much ink to Berlusconi during the election campaign (compared, say, to Veltroni), one would be tempted to think the esteemed magazine pretends to hate the guy but it’s actually in love with Silvio…

I firmly believe Veltroni had no intention to win this time around (with a Party still in its infancy, and no definite opinion on any topic, still half-way between the Christian Democrats and the Communists of old). Veltroni’s main (and achieved) aim was to kill off everything on his left.

Berlusconi on the other hand in all likelihood will never again have to run for popularly-elected office: he now has three to four years to gather enough support in Parliament to become President of the Italian Republic, so it would be rather foolish for him to run down the country.

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I am appalled at the poor quality of this blog entry on Climate Feedback. Is this the standard expected from Nature?? Please do check facts a little better, next time.

http://omniclimate.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/gulf-stream-myths/ http://omniclimate.wordpress.com/2008/03/14/gulf-stream-myths-2/

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Marzo 17, 2008 alle 8:32 pm

  1. Qui il commento da L’Avvenire

    http://paparatzinger-blograffaella.blogspot.com/2008/03/sul-santoro-dei-preti-pedofili-il.html

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17, Marzo, 2008 a 12:21 pm E’ appunto perche’ a parlare sono i fatti e non le chiacchiere che si puo’ dire che il Governo Prodi sia stato il piu’ clericale della storia della Repubblica. Non una sola iniziativa e’ arrivata a termine, se i vescovi hanno detto di no.

Infatti chi e’ il secondo partito clericale d’Italia adesso, se non il PD (dopo l’UDC)? E in quale partito e’ permesso di pensare liberamente sull’etica, se non nel PDL?

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  1. Maurizio Morabito ha scritto:
    7 Marzo, 2008 18:19 Le puntate precedenti visto che la Titolare sembra molto impegnata…

    I: http://ocasapiens.blog.dweb.repubblica.it/2007/09/06/messina-i-prima-puntata/

    II: http://ocasapiens.blog.dweb.repubblica.it/2007/09/06/messina-ii-puntata/

    III: http://ocasapiens.blog.dweb.repubblica.it/2007/09/06/messina-iii-puntata/

    IV: http://ocasapiens.blog.dweb.repubblica.it/2007/09/07/messina-iv-puntata/

  2. Maurizio Morabito ha scritto:
    7 Marzo, 2008 18:26 Riguardo il commento di Francesca Maisano, PUBMED riporta 12 articoli per “Migliardo F”, uno dei quali senza Magazu’ come autore.

    “Migliardo F” non e’ mai lead author, in quei dodici, ed e’ ultima autrice (e quindi di importanza relativamente alta) in 4 casi.

    Per comparazione, il sottoscritto compare 4 volte, su PUBMED, due delle quali in prima posizione

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